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Auteur Genji's Art of War - make players and dms into generals in your module
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Lié: 23 jun 2002
De: New York
Posté: lundi, 16 septembre 2002 03:34
For full information about this system and the work done to create it, check out here: The Art of War

In three minutes you can download & install it and have entire armies of mixed race soldiers raining arrows, spells, swords, and catapult thrown fireballs down on enemy armies, without having any custom creatures, and controlled by any combination of players, or dms, or dm possessed creatures in your module.

You want Braveheart and the Fellowship of the Ring in NwNights? this can do it.

Any and all feedback is appreciated.

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Lié: 19 jun 2002
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Posté: mardi, 17 septembre 2002 05:09
Quote: Posted 09/16/02 03:34:52 (GMT) by Genji

For full information about this system and the work done to create it, check out here: The Art of War

In three minutes you can download & install it and have entire armies of mixed race soldiers raining arrows, spells, swords, and catapult thrown fireballs down on enemy armies, without having any custom creatures, and controlled by any combination of players, or dms, or dm possessed creatures in your module.

You want Braveheart and the Fellowship of the Ring in NwNights? this can do it.

Any and all feedback is appreciated.

Genji

Hey Genji, the link you posted doesn't work. Are you putting this up on NW Vault?
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Lié: 23 jun 2002
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Posté: mardi, 17 septembre 2002 05:50
Quote: Posted 09/17/02 05:09:22 (GMT) by Lord Niah
Hey Genji, the link you posted doesn't work. Are you putting this up on NW Vault?

Yeah, type-o, should be The Art of War, and it should be up in the vault now too.

Thanks Niah.

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Lié: 30 jui 2002
De: Austin
Posté: mardi, 17 septembre 2002 07:19
A question: The Final Beta and 1.0 were released almost on top of each other. Are there fixes in 1.0 that aren't in the Final Beta, or was the Final Beta the 'release candidate' that was dubbed 1.0?

For anyone who wasn't in the beta thread, I want to say I really recommend this. First, you can do fighting on a scale that you can't either in Neverwinter Nights or in pen and paper. Second, this is really good code to look at if you want to learn to write scripts with behavior involving several characters.

Plus, I'd like to remind you that you can edit the link in the first post. Being able to edit text you've already created is about my favorite feature of the Bioware Bulletin Boards. I've crowbarred my foot out of my mouth a couple times .
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Lié: 19 jun 2002
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Posté: mardi, 17 septembre 2002 08:37
I have it! Now I'll have to play around with it a little when I get home. On a side note: it's really amazing to see some of the things people are doing with the scripting language. There's a demo module up that allows writing messages with flames. There's also another that allows you to make realistic force cages and barriers.
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Lié: 23 jun 2002
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Posté: mercredi, 18 septembre 2002 07:12
Quote: Posted 09/17/02 19:19:18 (GMT) by samjones
A question: The Final Beta and 1.0 were released almost on top of each other. Are there fixes in 1.0 that aren't in the Final Beta, or was the Final Beta the 'release candidate' that was dubbed 1.0?

Sam,
There are a couple minor bug fixes, like the marshal not starting the first conversation with you, but the final beta is mostly the same as 1.0.
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Plus, I'd like to remind you that you can edit the link in the first post. Being able to edit text you've already created is about my favorite feature of the Bioware Bulletin Boards. I've crowbarred my foot out of my mouth a couple times .

Oh, if only I had noticed the error in time, however the ability to edit a post is not long lived.

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Lié: 30 jui 2002
De: Austin
Posté: mercredi, 25 septembre 2002 01:55
Hey, I've got my first draft of a tutorial for Genji's Art of War. It's a good, easy place to learn how to lead troops of your own. I would really appreciate feedback, especially from people who haven't previously used Genji's Art of War.

My module is available here. You can either send me messages on this site or email at samjones@io.com

I'll post here again with later versions.

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Lié: 05 jui 2002
De: Sydney
Posté: mercredi, 25 septembre 2002 04:40
Thanks for pointing me here Genji & Sam.

I hesitate to send you my module for two reasons:
1) It's designed to be closely DM'd - I haven't automated much of it.
2) I'm still taking my players through it, and I wouldn't want one of them to stumble upon it and ruin the fun! (Let's hope they're not reading this )

Really though, it's not going to be much more useful than the demo module. I have a bunch of orcs in a stockade (who are neutral to the PCs at the start). When the PCs pay the Orcs a visit, they see the Orc leader doing drill-practice with a small unit of Orcs. I might also allow them to see some mixed unit combat practice (using Orc Archers & Warrirors against the stolen cows from the little hamlet the PCs are defending).

There might also be an opportunity to encounter a patrol of these neutral (but strangely disciplined) orcs while en route between major points of interest. If the PCs spot them in time and hide&watch they might be both impressed and scared at the implications of orcs marching in step.

Later in the game there will be some real unit-level combat, when the PCs are given a small detachment of troops to command against the invading forces from the north.

For now though I don't have much to show you, unless you're interested in seeing the AOW imported into a module and a bunch of orcs standing around

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Lié: 23 jun 2002
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Posté: mercredi, 25 septembre 2002 05:11
Quote: Posted 09/25/02 04:40:34 (GMT) by ACS

Thanks for pointing me here Genji & Sam.

I hesitate to send you my module for two reasons:
1) It's designed to be closely DM'd - I haven't automated much of it.
2) I'm still taking my players through it, and I wouldn't want one of them to stumble upon it and ruin the fun! (Let's hope they're not reading this )
yes, let's hope that they don't, i'm sorry i even posted that question.
Quote: There might also be an opportunity to encounter a patrol of these neutral (but strangely disciplined) orcs while en route between major points of interest.
I don't know if it's the hour or that i just love side comments, but that line broke me for a couple minutes.

I know this system is much better off as a DM tool, so enjoy and if your players have any ideas, please have them post up, once you are finished of course. Thanks.

Genji

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Lié: 30 jui 2002
De: Austin
Posté: mercredi, 25 septembre 2002 02:12
Oh looks down, embarrassed I guess I forgot something.

There is now a zipped version of the tutorial module I just posted here.

One of the lessons (arguably two) involves violence that could be pretty disturbing. The honest truth is that I got the idea to do this after reading about Jerry Springer's show on videogame violence. I'm interested in the opinions of people who played the tutorial and found it genuinely unpleasant or distracting.

Sheesh, the edit option doesn't last every long, does it?

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Lié: 23 jun 2002
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Posté: samedi, 28 septembre 2002 09:41
I am pleased to relay the following from the 1.25 Beta patch release notes released Sept 26th:

  • Added "/tk" and "/talk" to the chat command list.


This is great news, and assuming it works like we want it to, removes the last hurdle in the way of real player vs player gaming. What I hope is the case is that it has whisper's range and is heard by npc's. If that is the case, then we are golden.

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Lié: 04 aoû 2002
Posté: vendredi, 29 novembre 2002 03:35
This seems neat! Has anyone used it lately, esp with the new 1.27 patch? The website hasn't been updated in months, so I was wondering if there was something broken in it...
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Lié: 23 jun 2002
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Posté: lundi, 02 décembre 2002 04:30
Quote: Posted 11/29/02 03:35:45 (GMT) by SirTommy

This seems neat! Has anyone used it lately, esp with the new 1.27 patch? The website hasn't been updated in months, so I was wondering if there was something broken in it...

Hello All, thanksgiving has given me a chance to check up on some nwn. As for the art of war, since 1.25 when it was last written there has not been anything new in patches that would change anything about the code base. When they give us some more functionallity i'll release new versions that utilize them. The advent of talk as the default 'shout' function made it easy to have player vs player fights, but that didn't effect the code in any way. I've been keeping track of what 1.27 has to offer, and besides rats in formation (like i won't try that...), there's nothing new script-wise that will effect the aow.

As for myself, I've been barely able to do requests since october, but christmas should offer me some more time. I have been working on a module with a friend, so look for that in the future.

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Lié: 21 jun 2002
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Posté: lundi, 02 décembre 2002 06:23
I'll be looking for your mod!

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Lié: 19 jun 2002
Posté: lundi, 02 décembre 2002 06:27
Ah this is now the active thread cool.
I have a problem, how can you get the guys to STOP marching? They ignore me completly, marching into walls, or to the end of the areas.
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