Derek French
Technical Producer
Suscrito: 16 oct 2001
De: Euphoria |
 Colgado: miércoles, 25 junio 2003 03:19 |
We are trying to track down a crash in nwmain.exe crashing in a file called "CMDLINEEXT02.DLL". Unfortunately, the file "CMDLINEEXT02.DLL" is not a file that is used by BioWare, nor installed by SoU, nor does it exist on our development machines. At this time, we just don't know where its coming from. 
We would ask for those of you that are having a crash in this file to reply in this thread with what part of the game you were in when this happened.
For those of you that aren't sure where you are crashing you usually can get more details from the error message dialog.
If the crash message is being hidden by the game, you can run NWN in a window and you should be able to get to the crash message that way.
Please keep the thread on this topic, as other issues and posts will be deleted.
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Technical Producer
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Ganef
Game Owner
 NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
NWN 2
Suscrito: 06 jul 2002 |
Colgado: miércoles, 25 junio 2003 07:04 |
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Tell me exactly where I can find the error message you want in XP - I just got it on today and don't know it at all. |
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Ganef
Game Owner
NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
NWN 2
Suscrito: 06 jul 2002 |
Colgado: miércoles, 25 junio 2003 08:11 |
I found this reference in google on this file, it may be from CivIII PTW:
Click Here
Just look in google groups, there are a few references and it does behave oddly.
...I have PTW, but then again my NWN still crashed aftre a HDD format with no PTW on board. So it may help some, but not I. |
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Ganef
Game Owner
NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
NWN 2
Suscrito: 06 jul 2002 |
Colgado: miércoles, 25 junio 2003 08:21 |
If what I am posting is irrelevant then just delete this, but I thought I would continue with info from another google group search,
Click Here
here is one excerpt of note:
"Hi all, I've identified the file, nothing dodgy. It belongs to the SafeCast
copy protection scheme. It's can be deleted after system reboot but will
return every time the protected game is run, in my case NOLF2 as it's the
only game I've played recently."
Okay, now the second bit I would appreciate some clarification from an expert on:
"The most recent PC Magazine has a general article on Digital Rights
Management (DRM), and another on Macrovision's Safecast tool and its use
this year by Intuit's Turbotax 2002, in particular.
You may find both interesting and useful.
PC Mag and its Extreme Tech group have been very informative and helpful
about this "problem" so far.
There are still many unresolved issues, including whether writing to the
boot sector should be permited."
Would anything like this writing to the boot sector be able to interfere with the game after a HDD format? |
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ValeraPRP
Game Owner
 NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
Suscrito: 23 jun 2003 |
Colgado: miércoles, 25 junio 2003 03:16 |
Game Version: 1.30
Game Language: English
Processor Manufacturer: Intel
Processor Type: Pentium 4
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
OS: Windows XP Pro
System RAM: 1024 MB DDR Ram
Video Card Manufacturer: ATi
Video Card Model: Radeon ATi 7200
Video Card RAM: 64 MB
Video Card Driver Version: 6.14.10.6343
Sound Card Manufacturer: None Yet
Sound Card Model: N/A
Sound Card Driver Version: N/A
My game seems to crash more with a custom made character than with a premade character. It crashes when I try to load or save a game with a character I made. But, when I used Drax and another premade character I tried this with, I could save, quick save, and load rather easily. This is just a theory, but, it's worth giving it a try. |
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Necromancer26
Game Owner
NWN
Suscrito: 24 jun 2003 |
Colgado: miércoles, 25 junio 2003 03:40 |
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i think i had problems with this. and it happened after i put my graphic setting to the highest it will go then moved the slider back down to fast. and its been messed up since |
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Dave McGruther
Systems Administrator
Suscrito: 17 oct 2001
De: Edmonton |
Colgado: miércoles, 25 junio 2003 04:11 |
We have determined what this file is for. We'll continue to investigate, but would appreciate anyone having a crash that reports this .dll to post all system specs in this thread.
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Dave McGruther
Systems Administrator
BioWare Corp.
'I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this...' - Maynard |
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Loring
Game Owner
 NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
NWN 2
Suscrito: 23 may 2002
De: Nesme |
Colgado: miércoles, 25 junio 2003 04:54 |
Game Version: 1.30(SoU installed)
Game Language: English
Processor Manufacturer: Intel
Processor Type: Pentium
Processor Speed: 1GB
Operating System / Service Pack: Windowsxp with SP1
System RAM: 768 megs
Video Card Manufacturer: Nvidia(MSI)
Video Card Model: GeForce4Ti4200
Video Card RAM: 128 megs
Video Card Driver Version: 43.45
Sound Card Manufacturer: Creative Labs
Sound Card Model: SB pci 128
Sound Card Driver Version: 5/1/2001
Problem Description: I crash in anywhere from 1 minute to over an hour of gameplay. The .dll file in question appears in my temp directory. If I clear the file, it recreates itself after the game is played again. My error logs are posted elsewhere in this forum on active threads.
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ThomasT
Game Owner
 NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
Suscrito: 02 may 2002
De: Calgary |
Colgado: miércoles, 25 junio 2003 05:03 |
Quote: Posted 06/25/03 03:19:11 (GMT) by Derek French
Unfortunately, the file "CMDLINEEXT02.DLL" is not a file that is used by BioWare, nor installed by SoU, nor does it exist on our development machines.
So let me see if I understand this...
The dll is used for copy protection.
The copy protection was added by the publisher after you released SoU for duplication.
You are supposed to support and enhance this product without being told what the publisher added.
Nice!
Hope the publisher gets their wrists slapped about this kind of crap.
Cheers,
TT. |
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TheOneWraith
Game Owner
 NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
SW: KotOR PC
NWN 2
NWN 2: MotB
Suscrito: 25 sep 2002
De: My room, B.C., Canada |
Colgado: miércoles, 25 junio 2003 06:37 |
I am glad to see that my verdict was confirmed while I was asleep - it IS Atari!!!
I have the EXACT same problems as Loring...in fact, we were discussing this for a good part of yesterday.
Oh, and by the way, for the people who think of coming back to Win98SE: I've been using it for as long as I can remember; I have the same problems as the rest of you.
I am, however, disappointed to see that we can't do anything about it, as it was thrown in by Atari. I love solving my own problems.
*sigh* Oh well. At least we can act as support in this little "quest."
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I'll try to get that error message for you...once I figure out how to run the game in a window(editing the ini did nothing).
...of course, seeing as how all the gods of irony insist on watching over me, it'll probably take over an hour to crash.
-I'll do (almost)whatever Bioware asks of me at this point.
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EDIT: Also interesting to note...Loring and I have the SAME sound card. If we're the only ones experiencing this particular symptom. Well, then...
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I do what I must, when I must.Edited By TheOneWraith on 06/25/03 18:39 |
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Dave McGruther
Systems Administrator
Suscrito: 17 oct 2001
De: Edmonton |
Colgado: miércoles, 25 junio 2003 08:40 |
Just because the .dll exists is not the issue. When you crash, does the error message say anything about the .dll? If not, this is not related.
Quote: Posted 06/25/03 16:54:10 (GMT) by Loring
Game Version: 1.30(SoU installed)
Game Language: English
Processor Manufacturer: Intel
Processor Type: Pentium
Processor Speed: 1GB
Operating System / Service Pack: Windowsxp with SP1
System RAM: 768 megs
Video Card Manufacturer: Nvidia(MSI)
Video Card Model: GeForce4Ti4200
Video Card RAM: 128 megs
Video Card Driver Version: 43.45
Sound Card Manufacturer: Creative Labs
Sound Card Model: SB pci 128
Sound Card Driver Version: 5/1/2001
Problem Description: I crash in anywhere from 1 minute to over an hour of gameplay. The .dll file in question appears in my temp directory. If I clear the file, it recreates itself after the game is played again. My error logs are posted elsewhere in this forum on active threads.
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Dave McGruther
Systems Administrator
BioWare Corp.
'I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this...' - Maynard |
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Loring
Game Owner
NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
NWN 2
Suscrito: 23 may 2002
De: Nesme |
Colgado: miércoles, 25 junio 2003 08:58 |
Quote: Posted 06/25/03 20:40:18 (GMT) by Dave McGruther
Just because the .dll exists is not the issue. When you crash, does the error message say anything about the .dll? If not, this is not related.
I am also yet to determine how to run in "windowed mode" to actually see the error that NWN produces. But my windows event log mentions a parse error on cmd (similar to cmdline...), and the cmdlineext02.dll file is created in our temp directories (the ones who are crashing) and not some other SoU users we have spoken to who are not crashing. Also, my dr. watson log mentions an access violation at the time of the crash. If you'd like, I'll find my errors that I've already posted here.
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Loring
Game Owner
NWN
NWN: SoU
NWN: HotU
NWN 2
Suscrito: 23 may 2002
De: Nesme |
Colgado: miércoles, 25 junio 2003 09:05 |
The latest thing I'm trying is:
a poster (I think cole 1080) had mentioned that there was a valid windows .dll file called cmdlineext.dll (no 02 on the end). I found a downloadable copy of that file as it was not located on my machine, and placed it in my system32 folder. The thinking, although maybe abstract or flat out wrong, is that this ....02.dll file is replacing, or altering info from the cmdlineext.dll file. Just something to add to the list to the things I've tried...
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Ixthus
Game Owner
 SW: KotOR PC
Suscrito: 06 jul 2002
De: Edinburgh, Scotland |
Colgado: miércoles, 25 junio 2003 10:16 |
I too am suffering random crashes and (less frequently) lockups from Neverwinter Nights (usually after 5 to 30 minutes of gameplay). I have the following:
Athlon XP 2600+ 333MHz FSB
ASUS A7N8X Deluxe (nForce 2 w/SoundStorm audio)
ASUS 9520 TD (GeForce FX 5200 w/ 128MB)
512 MB PC2700 DDR RAM
Windows 2000 SP3
DirectX 9
nVidia reference drivers 44.03
ASUS nForce 2 all-in-one drivers 1.16
Neverwinter Nights (No Shadows of Undrentide)
I used the critical patch update to 1.30 in case this fixed the problem (it still crashes).
I used the patch "remover" to go back to 1.29 (it still crashes).
I uninstalled NWN and did a full reinstall (including auto-updater upgrade to 1.30) and started playing one of the "demo" modules with a pregenerated character, without putting any other files into the install tree (it still crashes).
I tried running in windowed mode to catch any other error output, but no more information available. I do have "CMDLINEEXT02.DLL" on my system, though nothing seems to refer to this when the game crashes (error message simply refers to nwmain.exe and that it is writing a log, but I cannot find where the log is generated).
(If this is not related to this thread, it's a mighty strange Coincidence).
Event Viewer shows no new messages (since it started, and after the crash).
I have a friend who is also suffering problems since updating to 1.30 (including lockups and reboots). No further information as yet.
We will find a solution... |
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Dave McGruther
Systems Administrator
Suscrito: 17 oct 2001
De: Edmonton |
Colgado: miércoles, 25 junio 2003 10:41 |
That .dll file exists on ALL machines that run Shadows. It is part of SecuRom. So, unless you get a crash that says something like nwmain.exe caused an invalid page fault in module CMDLINEEXT02.DLL then the crash has nothing to do with this file (or SecuRom in theory).
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Dave McGruther
Systems Administrator
BioWare Corp.
'I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this...' - Maynard |
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